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interview with Vinny of V & B Kennels (Chinaman Article)
A few weeks ago I was at my home in Mcleansville when the phone rang and it was
my neighbor and friend Tom Garner on the line. Tom told me that Vinny and his
good friend Lenny were in town visiting from the west coast. Tom asked if I
would like to come over and visit and talk "dogs", I quickly accepted and then
asked Tom a favor. I said, "Tom I have been after you for a long time to write a
story about CHINAMAN with no avail could I possibly talk to Vinny about this and
so I was on my way to Hillsborough for a visit.
When I arrived it was raining and quite miserable outside Tom, Vinny, Buddy
Harris and Lenny were out in the welping house talking about some prospects off
of Frisco. These dogs were looking good and the few that have been rolled are
looking very promising. After sitting in this building for a while we headed
into the Living room of Tom's house and Vinny and I sat down to have a long
discussion about this great match and stud dog we all know as CHAMPION CHINAMAN.
Vinny first off wanted to make one thing very clear and that is all the
decisions that were made on CHINAMAN were jointly made between himself and B who
is one of Vinny's closest friends and partner.
In 1981, V & B bought a dog from Kimsey Woods called DOUBLE TROUBLE, they had
bought this dog to run in the fast lane with on the west coast and after rolling
him out they found out they were pleased with his gameness, but disappointed
with his ability and bite. They contacted Kimsey and he told them he had a good
rough dog that had just rolled with WOOD'S SUNDANCE and had crippled SUNDANCE,
it was CHINAMAN. So V & B decided to trade DOUBLE TROUBLE for CHINAMAN. DOUBLE
TROUBLE went on to win two and lost one game in 2 hours and twenty minutes.
V & B started to school CHINAMAN shortly after they got him to California, his
first roll was a massacre as CHINAMAN killed the dog in 12 minutes, V & B wanted
to see more so Vinny took him that day one hour by car and rolled him into a 48
pound Champion named CEASER. CHINAMAN did not take to the ride well and got
sick, when the roll started CHINAMAN was on the bottom for twenty four minutes,
from this position he went to CEASER'S belly and hip. Four minutes later at 28
minute mark CEASER'S owner picked him up and his whole loin was blue, CHAMPION
CEASER was never heard of again. V & B decided CHINAMAN was ready to match so
they hooked him up and he blew through his opponent in 17 minutes. This first
match CHINAMAN fought at 45 lbs.
After this match Vinny went to Australia for a month and a half for vacation and
upon return he wanted to see some action, you know what they say about absence
and the heart. Vinny told me as soo as he got back he took CHINAMAN to the next
local confirmation show sponsored by ADBA. At this show there was a guy who
owned a Champion named DOCTOR, he had won three at 46 pounds. After talking dogs
with him a while Vinny agreed to go back to his place after the show and they
were to roll their two dogs. The owner of DOCTOR cleared his living room and we
rolled him and CHINAMAN right there in his house! There were at least 15 people
that had tagged along from the show to see these two dogs go at it, they met
hard in the middle of the room. Then CHINAMAN drove DOCTOR into his corner where
he never ame out and he killed DOCTOR in 15 minutes, CHINAMAN literally opened
DOCTOR's belly open.
Just a few days later Rockin Robin called V & B and challenged CHINAMAN at 44
pounds. The match was set to go off in 2 1/2 months and when the time came
CHINAMAN made short of Rockin Robin's dog by going straight to the gut. Robin
called a turn on his dog immediately and made a nice handle. Vinny has not got
CHINAMAN in his corner and even though CHINAMAN and Vinny had a strong bound
between them, Vinny told me he was scared to hold CHINAMAN in the corner because
he would go nuts when removed from his victim and do ANYTHING TO GET BACK.
Rockin Robin's dog was a snapping turning dog that would grab CHINAMAN by the
nose and run with it. This was style CHINAMAN had not been exposed to when being
schooled ad it took CHINAMAN 30 minutes to catch Robin's dog in the belly again,
this time Robin's dog began to howl. The punishment that CHINAMAN was doing to
this poor dog actually had Vinny feeling sorry for the other dog. As he told me
hates to see any dog suffer under any circumstace, he also said he could not
understand why Rockin Robin would not pick up as all was lost for his dog.
Finally at thirty eight minutes Robin picks up and his dog is in no shape to
walk, not to mention scratch.
CHINAMAN took a lot of punishment on the head and it took him six months to heal
from that thirty minute bite and run he had to take in his last match, he had
one hole that was punched all the way through the muzzle. After he was fully
recovered V & B opened CHINAMAN to the world at 45 pounds! This offer stood for
three months when V & B finally accepted a challenge at 43 pounds. They traveled
500 miles to fight HUGH GRAY'S HUBCAP, the dog that beat CHAMPION ASTRO. This
was to be a classic as many people thought that HUBCAP was just the dog to beat
V & B and their dog CHINAMAN. The judge for the contest was Bill Lee. Well Lenny
went on to tell me how HUBCAP'S style proved to be fatal for him as he tried to
fight CHINAMAN straight up and swap it out with him, this gave CHINAMAN the
early opportunity to kill him and win in 22 minutes. This was CHINAMAN'S only
convention showing and he won best in show. CHINAMAN fought as the 3rd fight on
a seven math card, the fourth fight was CHAMPION ASTRO going out again after he
had healed from his loss to HUBCAP, HUB had beat him previously at 1:30. After
ASTRO was matched that night Vince made the comment to his owner that CHINAMAN
could beat his dog, ASTRO and was tempted to match him twice in one night. The
man that owned ASTRO really had nothing to say about the statement that Vinny
had made, but he did ask Vinny if he could breed to CHINAMAN. Vinny said no, but
he could get a dog and match into CHINAMAN and see what CHINAMAN was best at,
for now he was CHAMPION CHINAMAN.
V & B were on there way home from winning and CHINAMAN was restless in his sky
kennel so they were going to let him out and before they could get the collar on
him to walk and empty him he wa gone! He darted out of the kennel and went
running off into the woods in the middle of the night after a deer. It took
three of us over an hour to catch him.
After beating HUBCAP, CHINAMAN was again openedto the world and again it seemed
forever to get a match for him, eight months later after opening him Cutter &
Brice bought a dog specifically to beat CHINAMAN. There was alot of prefight
talk, so much of it that V & B took it personally. Cutter and Brice had paid
alot of money for this dog and he never made a single scratch to CHINAMAN. Their
dog was ahead for the first few minutes until Vinny sent CHINAMAN in to the gut
of their dog at 38 minutes, they picked up there dog and he died later. After
the fight, Cutter was a gentleman, but I cannot say that for Brice, as he made
the stupid statement that he had one at home that could beat CHINAMAN.
Vinny also wants it to be known that CHAMPION CHINAMAN R.O.M. was the type of
dog that was a great individual and could have achieved what he did in the hands
of ANY RESPONSIBLE dogfighters hands against any competition. I asked Vinny why
he did not go for the magic fifth match and his reply was that after the fourth
fight he got married and went to Europe for a six month long Honeymoon. When he
got back and finally got back to business of the dogs he saw many signs of age
on CHINAMAN who was now seven years old. He had grey hairs all over his face and
his his teeth were worn badly, so V & B made the choice to retire him and start
breeding him. They were offered in excess of five thousand dollars for CHINAMAN
from several well known fanciers, but they made a much wiser choice than selling
CHINAMAN. V & B are very close to Tom Garner and so the decision was made to
GIVE CHINAMAN as a gift to Tom and in return Tom would send them dogs out of
CHINAMAN. This proved to be very insightful and was good for the WHOLE GAME.
Vinny closed our conversation saying that over the years that many people have
wanted information on this great dog and he hopes he has covered all the bases,
while trying to make this a insightful as possible. One closing note was that
Vinny born on January 8th and this is the same day in 1989 that this great 43-45
Champion passed away that we know as CHAMPION CHINAMAN.
This article was written by the editor of AMERICAN GAME DOG TIMES..
Smith & Waltons Ch. "Tootise Roll "
Williams had come over for one of his regular visits,to talk Bullldogs and
relax.All of our visits together turned out to be "too much fun".John Lakey and
his son-in law Buzz Smith,invited us to Ajo,on Sunday to look at their dogs and
have a roast beef dinner.Those who know me, know that very few roast beef
dinners have escaped from me in my life time.Even so,I told Wed I really didn't
want to drive to Ajo.lt was over two hours each way and the only scenery was a
barren Indian reservation.After reminding me that by Sunday I might be real
hungry,Red convinced me to go. As we walked in the front door,l was sure glad we
had come.John's wife was loading the table with beef,potatoes and
gravy,vegetables,rolIs,pie and cake! After she sat us down,she told us to enjoy
ourselves,and she left for the day.I thought at the time that she was the
perfect woman,a great cook who knew when to dissappear.lt was one of the most
memorable meals of my life. After we ate,"Buzz" showed us some pictures of his
dogs.One grabbed our attention.The dog in the picture was dead.lt looked like a
butcher had separated both shoulders and stifles with a cleaver!l I asked "Buzz"
what happened,and he said an old @#%@#%@#%@#%@#% he had got off the chain and
killed it. Red and I looked at each other and tried to act calm.We suggested we
go out and take a look at the dogs.John and "Buzz" showed us the yard.They had
about 10 or 12 real good looking dogs.Most were of "Peterbilt' and "Hanna Patch"
breeding from David Smith and Max Coats.We casually asked about the "killing"
dog. "Buzz"sshowed us a four year old brindle @#%@#%@#%@#%@#% with a long dish
face named "Tootise Roll" .He told us she was heavy Carver bred,that her great
Grandmother was "Ch Butcher Boys" mother.We asked "'Buzz" if it might be
possible to roll her .He told us that if we had something her weight,he
wsuld.She looked to be about 48 - 42lbs.Buckshot had a bad stifle
@#%@#%@#%@#%@#% off his "Preacher" dog at that weight.We called Rim and Re said
he'd do it as long as"Tootise" wasn't an ounce over 42lbs.SBae was a bit heavier
off the chain,so we had our hopes dashed.We spent the rest of the day talking
dogs and finally headed home.Red and I talked about "Tootise" all the way back
and the two hours seemed to fly. Three or four months later "Buzz" called and
said the mine had closed,his wife had left him and he couldn't keep his dogs.He
said he would give me any or all of them.1 told him I didn't have room for them
all ,but if he would bring me "Tootise",lld try her, and match her,and give him
$500.00 if she won.He brought her down the next day.I called Wed and told him
the good news.He sat up a roil with Dwight S.and a rough Heinzi @#%@#%@#%@#%@#%
he had.Wed came back over and Buckshot came to take a !ook."Tootise" hit the
@#%@#%@#%@#%@#% in the throat, within 5min. she had a hematoma the size of a
grapefruit on the right side of her throat.Red asked me to stop it at 10min.and
it was obvious the @#%@#%@#%@#%@#% wouldn't last much longer. I asked Red to
find something over his way at 42lbs.The match was made into a 'Boomerang x Hog"
@#%@#%@#%@#%@#% named "'Hanna.As I was getting ready for the match I just knew "Tootise"
would murder it.I sure got a suprise.They met in the center of the pit and went
mouth to mouth.Biood was pouring and at 2Omin. "Tootise was getting the worse of
it. I got a little worried when I realized I'd never seen "Tootise"scratch.At
the 35min. mark "Tootise" got in the right stifle and it blew up as big as a
tennis ball.She then bit the left stifle and it did the same."HannaN quit cold
and "Tootise" ran a hard courtesy scratch. Wed and I spent many hours discussing
how an easy one sure turned hard.I sent "Buzz" the $500.00. A few months later
,Buckshot and I rolled "Tootise and found where she really wanted to go. Deep in
the kidneys and found a home.he was whipping the dog and Buckshot gave her some
help with his Gerber.We scratched "Tootise" into the dog a half-dozen times and
let her work the kidneys. For "Tootsies" second,l matched her into J.B.Clicks "Samantha".They
told me she had stopped 9 dogs in matches and rolls.Red came over and P.Browning
refereed.At turned into another tough night "Samantha was slinging "Tootise" all
over the pit.At 40min.,Buckshot was betting against "Tootise.l was suprised and
asked him why? He told me "Tootise" was out-gunned and couldn't win.But as soon
as "Tootise" got to the kidneys it was all over.She was in hold for 20min. and
the blood was balooning up under the skin. "Samantha turned and was counted out
at 1 hr.9min.She was gone before she got out of the driveway. Red,Buckshot and I
sat around and talked for awhile.I couldn't understand why "Tootise" was taking
such a beating before she turned on and took them out.Buckshot suggested that
the next time I matched her,to let her bite a dog on the way to the pit,so she
would get angry. For "Tootises" Championship,l traveled again.We went into
Brian's "Kaluha" a beautiful black Hammonds @#%@#%@#%@#%@#%,who had won one in 1
hr.40min.On the way to the pit Red held up a @#%@#%@#%@#%@#% "for Tootise and
they grabbed each other.lt must have done the trick because "Tootise" went
straight to the kidneys.At the 10min. mark "Kauha" was fading dast.I asked Brian
to pick her up.He refused but "Tootise" stayed in the kidneys .Me picked her up
at 25min. and she made a crawling courtesy scratch,but she never made it home.I
flew home with "Ch Tootise Roll". "Tootise" was now six years old and had only
been in heat once.I didn't have much hope of ever getting pups from her.I did
breed her to Sorrells Hard Eyes and Gr.Ch. Badger.I heard from the boys who
ended up with some of the "Hard Eyes" pups they were good rough ones. I later
traveled to Pennsylvania to look at a Gr.Ch.Badger x Ch. Tootise @#%@#%@#%@#%@#%
that my kids named "Large Marge.She is one of the best I've ever
seen,iartense,deep game,and a real punisher in the back end."Marge has since
went on to win her championship.l still have two daughters off "Tootise",and
lots of grandaughters and grandsons.All of the grandchildern I've tried so far
look real good."Ch Tootise" died at Wed's place of cancer when she was 10 years
old. I am sure glad she passed my way.! owe it all to Red for talking me into a
great roast beef dinner. When I think of "'Tootise" remember talking with Al
Brown when I was about '85 years o!d,Just getting started in bulldogs.! told Al
I was having trouble finding a good one.Al said to be patient and I'd have my
share."But Al,where are . they?" I asked ."Bobby,he said "A GOOD ONE IS WHERE
YOU FIND IT" S&W'S TOOTSIE ROLL By - Bobby Smith
The true story of Wee Willy
the early 80's, I was on one of my many quests in search of the ultimate Canine
Warrior with my limited knowledge of respected dog sellers. My journey ended
when I contacted Dr. K. Woods. He informed me that he had just "looked" at a
small dog in the low thirties pit weight who showed game, had average wrestling
ability, and below average bite. He then went on to explain that Wee Willie was
bred from some Old Carver Stock and how good he was bred, but he was not of the
quality he wanted to represent him personally in the field of the battle. We
finally agreed on a price of $700. under the condition that he was free of
heartworms and was in good health. I explained that there were several
"Openings" in that weight class and he knew my intentions.
After several weeks of impatiently waiting, Dr. Woods finally called and
informed me that the only thing in Wee Willie's heart was courage, and that he
checked out fine otherwise. In short order Wee Willie had a new home, and within
the next month or so, I faced my little hero with another dog that was well
lacking in the traits desired in an American Pit Bull Terrier, so that I felt
confident that Wee Willie would not suffer any fatal injuries in his first
"Showing" for me.
Wee Willie was not misrepresented by Dr. Woods. His ability was fair, his bite
was below average, and he definetly possessed the desire to continue the battle.
I needed no more convincing, and I placed Wee Willie on a pre-keep feeding
program as I had made up my mind to "Show" him for a medium amount of money
based on what I had seen. It didn't take long to get this lined up with a very
well respected dogman and worthy opponent, Mr. B. House from Texas. The date,
weight, and other details were soon taken care of. I started Wee Willie on the
usual eight week keep. Into the 6th week of his keep (top keep for me), I
noticed something was not quite right for Wee Willie , and it was about time to
get the final checkup and go ahead from my local vet. Anyway, I took him on and
explained my confusion and suspicions and sure enough it was the worst:
HEARTWORMS. After further examination, it was determined that his heart was
infact enlarged from the prolonged prior damage caused from heartworms. Wee
Willie and I slowly drive home, saddened by the fact that the visions of a
bright future, and my "Potential Champion" were now shattered. I placed Wee
Willie on the chain and called Mr. House. I explained the situation and that I
didn't have a replacement at that weight, and that I would have to pay the
forfeit. He sympathized and, reluctantly, accepted my forfeit. After careful
consideration, I decided to go ahead with the recommended heartworm treatment.
Wee Willie, being the true little viking he was, I didn't want to lose him in
We Started the thirty-day cure, and keeping Wee Willie out of trouble was no
easy task. He was constantly on the lookout for something, anything to get into.
The better he got to feeling, the harder it was. Dog houses, food pans, water
buckets, pens and doors were no match for this busy little soldier.
Shortly after we finally finished the treatment, a friend of mine named Mr. B.
Houston, from Jackson, Mississippi called and was looking for a small male about
the description of Wee Willie. I gave him a rundown on the whole history of the
little viking, and explained that he could not "look" at him at this time due to
the treatment he was recovering from. As I needed the room, we agreed for Mr.
Houston to go ahead and take Wee Willie and when he did look at him, if not
satisfied, he could return him and get a full refund of the $600.00 purchase
price. This was agreeable to us both, so off went Wee Willie again, only for me
to get a phone call several months later from Mr. B. Houston.
He explained that he did put Wee Willie down for a "chain match" and did infact
win at around the hour mark, but Wee Willie was not of the calibre he was
looking for. "Just wasn't enough dog", as he put it! As agreed, he brought Wee
Willie back and I returned his $600.00. He did mention in the conversation that
he bred Wee Willie to one of his bitches before he "rolled" him (good dogs later
came from this breeding.)
I was later relating the history and experiences of Wee Willie to another friend
of mine, and old timer and knowledgable dogman, Mr. E. Anderson. He expressed
that for the right price, he would like to have Wee Willie for a stud dog. Wee
Willie had a new owner for $300.00.
Shortly after Mr. Anderson and I closed the deal on Wee Willie, Mr. "Snakeman"
called Mr. Anderson and inquired about Wee Willie. He again gave the history of
Wee Willie and he had a new home for the tune of $700.00, and was on his way to
"Snakeman's." In the next couple of weeks, Mr. Snakeman called Mr. Anderson back
upset about Wee Willie showing positive for heartworms (again). Mr. Snakeman
thought it was only fair under these adverse circumstances that Mr. Anderson
refund at least half of his purchase price, which Mr. Anderson did.
THE REST OF THE TRUTH IS:
When Wee Willie left us, he was approximately four years old, had recieved one
heartworm treatment, had permanent heart damage from prior prolonged heart
worms, had won only one "chain fight", and tested positive for heartworms at the
time of his departure.
THIS IS WHERE THE MISTERY COMES IN.
Wee Willie reappears again approximately one year later and has overcome these
handicaps that have plagued him, and supposedly has won five contracted matches
- not as Wee Willie, though; now he is known as "SNAKEMAN'S GRAND CHAMPION
BY: Bob Cox
Published in: Bulldog Revelation Vol. 1 Issue 3 - 1999
Vodopic's CH “REP” by Mirko – North Boy’ Kennels
Vodopic's CH “REP”
Vodopic’s CH “REP” was probably gamiest dog that ever walked in 4X4. His record
is 1:40, 3:20, 3:18 I do not now any other dog that made this times in matches.
He was the son of CH “GIROUX”ROM and daughter of Auclairs’ CH”TOM”, Krkeljic s
“DONA”. His littermate sister is Balkan Boy s “BLACK CHEDA”1xW and she is
foundation bitch in Balkan Boys Kennels. CH ”REP” is a product of RED
BOY-JOCKO-JEEP and GIROUX bloodlines, he was complete package, dead game, good
wind, endurance, smart and solid bite.
This is his record:
VODOPIC'S “REP” VS. DERVANOVIC'S “SEM”
M-24,00 kg REF. DEJO IVANOVIC
Rep is son of Krkeljic s CH”Giroux”ROM, Sem is son of Scepovic's “Tom jr.”(CH
Yellow Tom bloodline)
In first 20 min fight is even, after that Rep is ahead and after five each
scratches Sem is picked up and both dogs makes scratch.
WINNER:VODOPIC’S “REP” 1xW
VODOPIC’S “REP” 1xW VS. VUJOVIC’S “BILLY” 1xW
M-23,50 kg REF. SATKO
Rep is son of CH ”Giroux” ROM and “Dona”, he is 0,7kg heavier. Billy is son of
Cune’s “Iron Kid” and he is 1w in 16 min. Billy is on top first hour and working
legs and stifle, making making serious damages. Rep is mostly on ears. There are
no turns or scratches till 3:05,outhold Rep is down dog and he must make
scratch. He makes furious scratch with damaged legs. After 15 min again out hold
and Billy must go, but he is counted in his corner, Rep makes deep game scratch.
WINNER: VODOPIC’S”REP” 2xW
VODOPIC’S “REP” 2xW vs. BOJANIC’S CH”BOBBY” 3xW
M-23,00 kg REF: DEJO IVANOVIC
This was long expected match between two best heavyweights in country. Two dogs
with different styles
smartness against mouth. CH “Bobby” killed three opponents, he like the stifle
and he is really rough dog. He is mostly CH”Yellow Tom” bloodline. From the
start Bobby is all the way, Rep is on the head In 3:18 Bobby is counted out, Rep
makes dead game scratch. Unfortunately both dogs died, CH “Rep” 24 hours later
and CH”Bobby” eleven days after match. These was match between two ACE, and they
showed everything what should have one honest APBT.
WINNER: VODOPIC’S CH ”REP” 3xW
CH “REP” BLOOD CONTINUES TOO LIVE TROUGH BALKAN BOYS ”BLACK CHEDA”1xW AND HER
OFFSPRING'S. I’M PROUD TOO HAVE DOGS WITH HER IN PEDIGREE THANK YOU FOR THAT
DEJAN (Balkan Boys).
YOURS IN SPORT NBK
by Mirko – North Boy’ Kennels
Zinetti & Cupers' RIOS
RIOS was born 05.01.1998. in the yard of my friend from GB Kennels, Croatia. He
was from ELI/SNOOTY bloodline. All pups from that breeding started very early,
so RIOS was game tested when 13 months old , he was two dogged vs bigger and
older dogs during 45 min. He show us extreme raw power, very heavy mouth and
gameness with no doubt. a RIOS was totaly crazy dog. eating doghouses, chains...
so he destroy a lot of his teeths. Because of that we want to match him as soon
as possible, so my friend Cuper from Italy and me hook him vs imported USA dog
from Carver blood in Italy. Even JOE was 1 kg heavier, RIOS silenced him for18
min. Somethime later Cuper bought CH GORING from Wermacht Kennels. He was great
pit dog, owner of BIS and GIS trophy and brother to CH ALKA and CH FRITZ,
half brother to great GR CH DENDY.One day when Cuper returned home, he find free
RIOS and dead GORING in his mouth. When he separated RIOS from a DEAD GORING and
put him on the chain, he saw few more bodys, his TESSY 1W and my great MISS
YANKEE, which was supposed to be breed tomorrow with VILI ROM. RIOS didn't care
much for hers heat.And Cuper was not in home only couple hours.Off course, RIOS
broke few more teeth. Some later I bring him in Croatia and searching for most
known opponent. I call Andrijin Kennels and tried to hook up vs his SAVON 1W(vs
CH MAX), 1D(2 :50) or vs his CH DORO 5W.But, since vas easier to swimm across
over beautiful Adriatic sea, than do match vs guys like him, he calls other
people which have one famous dog from his blood. M&P Kennels callsme and we
contract match for 5 min, like should be. M&P's BOBO won ower highly regarded
BONGO in 2:03. BONGO won before that BIS trophy in his first, and silenced game
CH DONKY 4W in his second. BOBO is grandson of GR CH YELLOW ROM. RIOS was sick
in the car and he drop some weight. Because that BOBO dominated first 15 min
riding RIOS' head, while RIOS tried to catch his chest. When BOBO slows down,
RIOS in the back end and BOBO quit on his first at 0:32 and make RIOS 2 x
winner. Soon after call me Staforac and his RAMBO 1W, match was set up for Pula
Show 2001. During the keep RIOS had big health problems, after Antibiotics he
looks OK, and I continue like normal, but this was mistake. RIOS enters weak in
match and fight from bottom. In start RIOS lost few more teeth and RAMBO open big
cut on his nose where RIOS bleed heavily through whole match. He was weaker and
weaker. There was no turn, out of hold, or any other bad sign, both dogs stay in
holds, RIOS in chest from bottom, RAMBO on the head waiting good chance. At 1:20
RIOS falls into deep shock and was with no defense on the floor. I pick him up in
1:30 and try to scratch him. Nobody believe that he can make scratch, but RIOS
shows them that he can and will. He falls down, go up, fall......and make
stumbling ,deadgame courtesy scratch and grab RAMBO in chest again. Crowd was
applauding, and I took him to my wet to try to save him. Unfortunately, RIOS
died and like my buddy said : "Deadgame dog die, that he was a curr, he will be
probably alive..." RIOS was woted Gamest in Show, and RAMBO won Best in Show .
RIOS was breed only once and there is only one pup out off him alive, dam of
this pup is my old CH AZRA ROM, the last pup out off her too. There is no money
which can pay for this little female which I called PARMA. She is 80 days old and
hot and started. I hope she will give me one little RIOS in future. " HEROES
REALLY DIES ONLY WHEN WE FORGOT THEM "
Zinetti's Ch Azra ROM
CH AZRA ROM is part of great litter where was also Žeževica Knls' CH
PENNY, Marsonia Knls' CH JENNY, and Nenad's TINA 1W,1L (produced 2 Champions).
She won 3 contracted matches and one off the chain and collected 1 forfeit. CH
AZRA ROM is, with no doubt, one of the best producing bitches of modern times.
She produce winners, no matter who is the sire. hers offspring have record of
23 wins and only 3 loses, and there are many young dogs still waiting to come of
age. Her offspring start early, extremely hard working, crazy dogs, super natural
air and always stay in hold dogs. Strong mouth, very game and intelligent dogs.
She is one of Europe's finest dogs of her time.
B.C.'s Hunt v/s Ken & T.O.'s Tugger
Males 32 1/2 Clyde M.
Both dogs are a 1/2 lb light. Hunt is a 2x winner from a Carver and Mason
Bloodline. Tugger from Bobby and Shawn, a 1x winner, Patrick's Tater and
Faith/Red Jerry breeding. Tugger barnstorms Hunt in to a turn at 10. Two
scratches each. Tugger has a quick mouth and holds Hunt out for 45. Hunt has it
all even by Two Hours and 30 minutes. For the next two hours, they take turns on
top, numerous flurries by each dog. At five hours and 30 they are handled with
Tugger to go and he scratches and Hunt is picked up at 5:33 and tries to give a
courtesy scratch but can't.
Winner: Ken & T.O.'s Tugger.
reprinted by the SDJ Jan-Feb 1984
High Blood Bulldogs' Astaroth (Aces High Chavez)
This is the pit story of High Blood Bulldogs'
Astaroth (Aces High Chavez), a brazilian 4 time
I'm sending to you a picture of him, all
was lincenced from its owner (Mr. Jonas Klaus
from Eddie Klaus' family), no problem, you can
post this in your site.
Very interesting because of the age when this dog
was matched, the brazilian are crazy people :)
All happen in
Rio Grande do Sul – Brazil.
Aces High have produced some very
nice heavy bulldogs including Aces High Anthrax
(Saddam) (3XW), Wild Hill’s Arena (5XW), C. Bin
Laden (2XW) and Chavez (Astaroth) (4XW) (1XL). This
last one had proved to be a great match dog as a
very nice producer too. Astaroth sired very nice
match dogs when bred to Bellon’s Dhara, Bullwall’s
Baby Dolly and Wolney’s Diva (both Bullyson blood),
Wolney’s Cacatua (Yellow/Bullyson),
Deep Impact’s Problema (Corvino blood) and
Panzer’s Diana (Red Devil blood).
The first Astaroth’s school roll
(July, 2002) was against a bitch called Kimi, this
fight was a massacre and ended in only 2 minutes,
very nice to a 8 months dog. Kimi was suffered a
very deep chest injury. After that he was sold out
“Astaroth is big, very proud, he
thinks that he’s the king of the world, soon as I
toke him out of the car he started to demark his new
territory and didn’t gave a shit to our stud, son of
Ch. Bibbols, Hitler. It
seems that he thinks that he’s the one.”
His first serious roll was
against one of the sons of Ch. Boudreaux’ Pancho, he
was a 3 times winner in 4 fights and his name was
Ozzy. This fight was short and Astaroth suffer some
attacks in the first minute and a half, but when he
comes to the top he was near to kill Ozzy in 3
minutes, after 5 minutes it seems that a grenade
exploded on Ozzie, his owner, G.K., toke him off the
pit and said that Ozzy wasn’t good conditioned. Ozzy
had very and serious injuries on the head and
Astaroth nothing but some scratches in his neck and
in one of his legs.
To his second he was hooked
against Mr. D. with his Jack, that was a 6 time
winner and no losses, this dog was very closed into
Bolio blood. Astaroth was well conditioned but Jack
was a big match dog with more than 10 pounds heavier
than the young Astaroth. All the chances were
against Astaroth. Dogs released and at the mark of 3
minutes, mouth with mouth, Astaroth made serious
injuries in Jack’s teeth. This fight stopped at the
mark of 3 minutes and 47 seconds, by medical
decision. At this time Astaroth was at 11 months.
Was the first time that Jack lost a roll and was his
retired too. Mr. D. told that dog have a mouth of a
crocodile and called him “The Breaker”.
The third roll was against a
Bellon/Bullyson blood dog called Dinamo from B.P.D.,
this dog was a descendant from Ch. Koatly, Astaroth
was screaming in the corner, it seems that he knew
that Dinamo was trouble and wanted to end it soon.
Astaroth was in with 64 pounds and Dinamo with 62.
This fight was the hardest one to Astaroth. Dinamo
was a very nice leg dog and Astaroth had proved to
be a multi-techniques, Astaroth defended his legs
well and only at the mark of 3 minutes Dinamo got
one of Astaroth’s front legs, Astaroth thanked him
biting his neck, after 2 minutes Astaroth knew that
he wouldn’t win only grappling Dinamo’s neck. He
waited the right moment and toke one of Dinamo’s
shoulders and when Dinamo tried to change his
strategies, Astaroth pulled his leg off. Scratch. At
the second round Astaroth was only at 3 legs. The
dogs were released and Astaroth gave back the favor
of a leg injury to Dinamo. Scratch again. The two
dogs were on 3 legs now. The dogs were released
again but Astaroth was very tired. Dinamo got a good
muzzle bite and worked very good. Was this the end?
No way! After 2 minutes Astaroth was very tired and
it seems that he wanted to put an end in this roll.
He pulled very hard his muzzle from Dinamo’s mouth
breaking his own nose and jumped to take the head,
when Dinamo jumped Astaroth changed the idea and got
Dinamo’s leg again. At the mark of 11 minutes and 03
seconds, Dinamo needed to stop or Astaroth could
take his leg out of his body. Astaroth was very
tired but he was screaming totally crazy. It seems
that Astaroth wanted to kill that black dog. After
10 minutes he was calm down and very tired. This was
the most difficult fight to Astaroth and ended in
only 11 minutes. He was only with 13 months at this
His last roll was against a son
of Gr. Ch. Russa, this dog’s name was Iron. If he
was Iron, Astaroth was STEEL. 6 minutes and with
chest, head, muzzle and legs hard injuries Iron was
nothing but twisted metal. Astaroth just have suffer
one single successfully attack in one of his legs
and nothing more. One day later Astaroth was almost
full restored and Iron was dead. After that Astaroth,
with 16 months, was retired to stud.
Astaroth’s grandmother, Wild Hill’s Arena was a
great match dog too, winning all of the bests
adversaries she was hooked in. Arena was a 5XW and
was recognized as one of the all time bests bitches
of her province (Canoas – RS -
Brazil). Anthrax was a very nice match dog
too and won some good dogs. Unfortunately Anthrax
died when a stupid have shot his head with a gun in
a dog fighting, Anthrax was killing this man’s
Aces High have produced some very nice heavy bulldogs including
Aces High Anthrax (Saddan) (3XW), Wild Hill's Arena (5XW), C.
Bin Laden (2XW) and Chavez (Astaroth) (4XW) (1XL). This last one
had proved to be a great match dog as a very nice producer too.
Astaroth sired very nice match dogs when bred to Bellon's Dhara,
Bullwall's Baby Dolly and Wolney's Diva (both Bullyson blood),
Wolney's Cacatua (Yellow/Bullyson), Deep Impact's Problema (Corvino
blood) and Panzer's Diana (Red Devil blood).
Even when he was bred to some very poor bitches, he produced
The first Astaroth's school roll was against a bitch called Kimi,
this fight was a massacre and ended in only 2 minutes, very nice
to a 8 months dog. Kimi was suffered a very deep chest injury.
After that he was sold out to H.B.B.
“Astaroth is big, very proud, he thinks that he's the king of
the world, soon as I toke him out of the car he started to
demark his new territory and didn't gave a shit to our stud, son
of Bibbols, Hitler. It seems that he thinks that he's the one.”
His first serious roll was against one of the sons of Ch.
Boudreaux' Pancho, he was a 3 times winner in 4 fights and his
name was Ozzy. This fight was short and Astaroth suffer some
attacks in the first minute and a half, but when he comes to the
top he was near to kill Ozzy in 3 minutes, after 5 minutes it
seems that a grenade exploded on Ozzie, his owner, G.K., toke
him off the pit and said that
Ozzy wasn't good conditioned. Ozzy had very and serious
injuries on the head and Astaroth nothing but some scratches in
his neck and in one of his legs.
To his second he was hooked against Mr. D. with his Jack, that
was a 6 time winner and no losses, this dog was very closed into
Bolio blood. Astaroth was well conditioned but Jack was a big
match dog with more than 10 pounds heavier than the young
Astaroth. All the chances were against Astaroth. Dogs released
and at the mark of 3 minutes, mouth with mouth, Astaroth made
serious injuries in Jack's teeth. This fight stopped at the mark
of 3 minutes and 47 seconds, by medical decision. At this time
Astaroth was at 11 months. Was the first time that Jack lost a
roll and was his retirement too. Mr. D. told that dog have a
mouth of a crocodile and called him “The Breaker”.
The third roll was against a Bellon/Bullyson blood dog called
Dinamo from B.P.D., Astaroth was screaming in the corner, it
seems that he knew that Dinamo was trouble and wanted to end it
soon. Astaroth was in with 64 pounds and Dinamo with 62. This
fight was the hardest one to Astaroth. Dinamo was a very nice
leg dog and Astaroth had proved to be a multi-techniques,
Astaroth defended his legs well and only at the mark of 3
minutes Dinamo got one of Astaroth's front legs, Astaroth
thanked him biting his neck, after 2 minutes Astaroth knew that
he wouldn't win only grappling Dinamo's neck. He waited the
right moment and toke one of Dinamo's shoulders and when Dinamo
tried to change his strategies, Astaroth pulled his leg off.
Time. At the second round Astaroth was only at 3 legs. The dogs
were released and Astaroth gave back the favor of a leg injury
to Dinamo. Scratch. The two dogs were on 3 legs now. The dogs
were released again but Astaroth was very tired. Dinamo got a
good muzzle bite and worked very good. Was this the end? No way!
After 2 minutes Astaroth was very tired and it seems that he
wanted to put an end in this roll. He pulled very hard his
muzzle from Dinamo's mouth and jumped to take the head, when
Dinamo jumped Astaroth changed his mind and got Dinamo's leg
again. At the mark of 11 minutes and 03 seconds, Dinamo needed
to stop or Astaroth could take his leg out of his body. Astaroth
was very tired but was screaming totally crazy. It seems that
Astaroth wanted to kill that black dog. After 10 minutes he was
calm down and he was very very tired. This was the most
difficult fight to Astaroth and ended in only 11 minutes. He was
only with 13 months at this time.
His last roll was against a son of Gr. Ch. Russa, this dog's
name was Iron. If he was Iron, Astaroth was STEEL. 6 minutes and
with chest, head, muzzle and legs hard injuries Iron was nothing
but twisted metal. Astaroth just have suffer one single
successfully attack in one of his legs and nothing more. One day
later Astaroth was almost full restored and Iron was dead. After
that Astaroth, with 16 months, was retired to stud.
As some of the great ones as Bolio, Chinaman and Zebo, Astaroth
was a man biter.
Astaroth's grandmother, Wild Hill's Arena was a great match dog
too, winning all of the bests adversaries she was hooked in.
Arena was a 5XW and was recognized as one of the all time bests
bitches of her province (Canoas – RS -
Brazil). Anthrax was a very nice match dog too and won
some good dogs. Unfortunately Anthrax died when a stupid have
shot his head with a gun in a dog fighting, Anthrax was killing
this man's dog.
The Bellon line was
came from Antonio Bellon's working in
with some great American bloodlines, it was crossings with
of Bolio, Crenshaw, Yellow, Red Boy and Jocko blood. These
dogs made great rolls against great American bloodlines,
including some victories against Crenshaw's dogs itself.
The Bellon line don't have a clear main skill, but its dogs
are, mostly frequently, good stamina, game and lots of
mouth, many of them can't be called as hard biters, but can
made great injuries in their adversaries. Leg grapplers and
some head dogs are very easy to see in Bellon's bulldogs.
Antonio Bellon really deserves all the credits to choose
high quality bulldogs from great bloodlines, this working
was the first Mexican great breeding program and some of the
bests of the world. Many American breeders don't see the
Bellon dogs as a stabilized bloodline and call these dogs as
Bolio/Crenshaw crossings, in fact this is very offensive to
some Latin Breeders. There's some very nice kennels in USA
that works with these Mexican bulldogs, some of these
kennels made crossings between these Bellon dogs with
Bullyson, Bolio and Crenshaw bloodlines.
Diablo had some of this blood and was one of the bests of
this line at his time and was one of the dogs that made the
Dark Fighters line alive, with some of Bullyson and Eli
blood. Grapa and Piraña, that was great match dogs too,
in hands of Mr. Charles Gonzales.
Some Bellon line dogs that became famous were Ch. Koatly,
Chacal, Cascavel, Lucifer, Soruyo, Ch. Escuder, Veneno ROM
and Ira. All great match dogs.
Ch. Bellon's Koatly
This Champion appears in many actual pedigrees of Bellon's line bulldogs. Koatly
was a great producer and his blood it's very wanted. Very closed in Bellon
blood, Koatly's sire was Ch. Escuder and his dam was Ch. Lynet (daughter of
Veneno ROM and Ch. Fata Morgana).
This dog appears 3 times in the 3 generations pedigree of Dhara's dam, Ira.
PEDIGREE of Bellon's Koatly.
|4 GENERATION PEDIGREE
CH BELLON'S KOATLY
||Not a public information.
COLOR: WHITE / BLACK
PREV. BLOODLINE: RED BOY / JOCKO
|Generations in Pedigree
CH BELLON'S ESCUDER
CH BELLON CLUB'S THOMAS (5XW) ROM
||BELLON'S BROONKS II
|BELLON'S MORAGAS II
||GR CH BELLON CLUB'S SINELNICOF
|BELLON'S MORAGAS ROM
BELLON'S FATA CIRCE
CH BELLON CLUB'S THOMAS (5XW) ROM
||BELLON'S BROONKS II
||CH BELLON'S VILLANO
|CH BELLON'S FAMA
CH BELLON LYNET
BELLON'S VENENO ROM
||CH. BELLON'S PIOJO
|CH. BELLON'S YANGA
||DEL VILLAR'S POL
|BELLON'S MORAGAS ROM
BELLON FATA MORGANA
CH BELLON CLUB'S THOMAS (5XW) ROM
||BELLON'S BROONKS II
|BELLON'S MORAGAS II
||GR CH BELLON CLUB'S SINELNICOF
|BELLON'S MORAGAS ROM